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Flag of Hate? by DarthRoden Flag of Hate? by DarthRoden
I Don't Know About You But I Am Sick And Tired Of Hearing People Complain That The Southern Cross Battle Flag (or Confederate battle flag, or Rebel flag) Is A Symbol Of Racism To African-Americans.
It Seems That Not All Black Men In The South Or The Rest Of America Share That Viewpoint, Even If It Seems That Most Do. Thankfully There Are More And More Individuals Disagreeing With Such Wrong-Thinking Monolithic Mindsets.

The Misuse Of This Flag By Racists Should Disgust Anyone Of Southern Descent Who Understands Its True History And Heritage.
Men And Boys Of All Races And Religions Served Under The Confederate Southern Cross, 260,000 Of Which Died In A Terrible War. Their Blood And Their Memories Are Woven Into The Fabric Of That Flag.
Those Who Advance Hateful Causes Taint The Memories Of Those Men And Corrupt What Most Southerners Today Consider The Living Symbol Of Southern Identity, An American Banner Second Only To That Of Flag Of The United States Of America.
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Growing5 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
I agree! Even though I do not like that flag I respect anyone's right to wear it. 
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
As do I.
I do like that flag, and respect the right of anyone to wear it honorably without fear of being labeled for doing so.
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VianTravis89 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2015  Student Filmographer
The south will not rise again but neither is it going away. AMERICA!!!
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
The South is the best part of America. Without the South there is no America. ;)
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Edited Aug 30, 2014
Everyone, I am truly sorry that any of y'all were exposed or offended by the obscene, degenerate words posted on this page.
I hope everyone will understand that the language used is not representatives of Americans in general. I have deleted the posts. Again my apologies to anyone who felt put off by this thoughtless moron's language and hate speech.

I do not like trolls, bullies, or low-class people.
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chrisjr5 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2014
I love this picture it just goes to show that our flag is NOT a symbol of racism. Thank you sir for putting this up
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014
And thank you Chris!
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chrisjr5 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014
you're very welcome

Rangers lead the way.
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KnightsofColumbus18 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Student Artist
I see you met my brother masonic knight and my brothers 100% right. we lived in indiana and we like to fly it.
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MasonicKnight Featured By Owner May 17, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Keep the rebel flag flyin'. Heritage not hate. You can fly the rebel flag in the midwest, the south or anywhere
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner May 19, 2014
Amen sir!
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MasonicKnight Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
May God bless you fellow rebel
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dakinkypimpwolfie Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014
I'm gay and sport the rebel flag. Keep on keepin on!
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TR0LLHAMMEREN Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Same here.
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ThePastaAlchemist Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
Amin to that my friend!!!!
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MSKM2001 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
I use to think that the Confederate was a symbol of hate and racism but I have been doing my homework and I found out that I was wrong.  As a white American and a Christian...I do believe that slavery and racism is wrong.  Yes...I know that Bible talks about slavery but it wasn't the same type of slavery that happened here in America.  I believe that everyone (male, female, black, white, etc) was created in the image of God.  I believe that Jesus died on the cross for both the white man and black man.  I believe that Jesus loves us no matter who we are.  Skin color doesn't matter to God.  He created us all!
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
We are in absolute agreement on that one.
As a Southerner I display that flag, but not because I want to offend anyone. I do it because I am proud to be from the American South and I'm proud to be a descendant of a Confederate soldier who died defending his home in war.
I hate the idea that people misuse that flag as a tool of racism and it hurts my soul every time I hear someone is offended by that. It disgusts me and anything I can do to advance the truth and change minds on that view of the Confederate flag and take away the power that racist people have with it I do happily. Nobody should be offended by the sight of that flag, nor made to feel ashamed of being born Southern or their ancestry.
Jesus loves all of us, especially Southern people, no matter what color we are.
God bless you and thanks for the favorite.
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DemonDogMarine1960 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
I WANT A SHIRT LIKE THAT!!  I live in Texas, that makes my a Confederate.   I NEVER HAVE SUPPORTED THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY!!!  I would have set all the slaves free if my family owned any in the Civil War.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
I admire that and sympathize. My family was never a slaveholding family - for that matter only about one-in-ten or so Confederate soldiers were in fact slaveowners. Most were farmers, laborers, and general everyday working people who thought only of defending their own homes, not the property rights of rich plantation owners that most of them never had contact with or cared much for socially.

The flag is not racist, or rather its only as racist at the intention of the person displaying it wants it to be. In the hands of a decent person its simply a Southern symbol, and only one person in a few hundred actually use this flag wrongly as a tool of hatred. And respect for that flag is not simply always just white only as the photo demonstrates.

You can get a shirt like this or others from a online site called "Dixie Outfitters" they do mail orders and their rates are reasonable. I've gotten a few shirts from there myself and they have all sorts of great designs.
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Supersonicman96 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Shouldn't the view on a flag be based on opinion, not on the opinion of men of the past? I think of the flag as oppression, is that incorrect for me thinking that?
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014
Well it depends.
I recently met a black girl about 19 or so who wore a camouflage jacket with a battle flag patch on the left arm. She told me that it was in honor of a boy she knew and loved who died from a brain tumor. The flag to him meant love of the South and his heritage, and to her it means something good because it meant something good to her friend.

I don't hate anyone who cannot look past the bad stuff, even if I cannot agree with their views.

There's really no right or wrong answer there, it depends on your experiences and views. I've seen the flag both used and misused for a variety of reasons, but I do not allow those who misused it to diminish the good things it means to me and millions of others across the world. If I gave up honoring it or standing up for it because of such misuse, then feel if I did so then I more or less surrender that flag to those who misuse it, worse that I give those same people my express approval to do so and hurt others with it. That's a personal decision, same as with the young woman I mentioned.
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Supersonicman96 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True.
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vikinglord-norse Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013
     Thank you. While the Southern flag was subsequently used to persecute, this was done from 1865 to 1877 and the late 1950s to the early 1970s; yes, racism still does occur, but its not as intense as it was.  And to be blunt, in any multicultural society, it will occur in one form or another.

     Having said that, few people will credit Southern commanders for a more progressive viewpoint than people give credit for.  After the was Robert E Lee worshiped next to a black man in church.  During the war, General Patrick Cleburne and others wanted the plantation owners to relinquish slaves so that the CSA would survive. Fewer still knew Nathan Bedford Forrest left the klan because of their radical activities.  Scholars know that 60,000 to 90,000 blacks served the Confederate war effort in various capacities [which ironically was not recognized due to the racism of the time].  One black who served as a soldier was Charles F Lutz; he was captured twice in Virginia and paroled each time to return to the Army of Northern Virginia [to be more precise-the 8 Louisiana Volunteer Infantry].

     Heritage is always important.  While sometimes we are not proud of the acts of our ancestors, their combined deeds shaped the world we live in today, both for good and the ill.  Collectively, Americans celebrate the American Revolution [and to a lesser extent the War of 1812], settling westwards, the Guilded Age, World War II, the Civil Rights Movement, and more; unfortunately with the Confederate memorization issue (from the flag to the names of Southern leaders), I know people who want the symbols removed... as much as I want to say "Why is it alright for you to celebrate your heritage, but I'm not allowed to celebrate mine," I don't ask because I can't change the mind of someone who is passionate [and I respect freedom to speech].

     If my beloved flag and memorials are banned, where's the line? Does this mean that Civil War reenactments and encampments are barred? Will our statues be knocked down?  Will I be arrested for having a Confederate flag in my bedroom, or for wearing the same shirt that this kind fellow is wearing; now if one put that on someone else's property, especially if they were black, that being purposeful intimidation is a crime.  If I'm denied a first amendment right to speech celebrating heritage, can they also deny fifth amendment rights to liberty and life?  The Confederate flag means many things to many people.  I'm proud of my ancestry.  I'm also happy that this gentleman is kind enough to wear the flag as a means to remember our share history.  White or black, we are Southerners all.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013
Sir (or ma'am) I could not have put that better myself. Very well said!
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Glorilux Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Half my family's from the South, and it always pisses me off when people wag their finger and say "Nuh-uh! that's politically incorrect." Ultimately I firmly believe that it is better that the union stayed together, but I also believe just as firmly that had the Confederacy gained independence, they would have abolished slavery before 1900. The Rebel flag is a part of American history and the story of who we all are, I say just recognize it, celebrate and learn from history, and don't hate in either direction.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
Very well said sir. I believe you represent the vast majority of Southerners who feel the same way today.
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someguy231 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with you 100%. I hate it when people think that the Confederate Flag is racist when this flag is to honor the good men in gray, not the pigs in white robes. I lived in the South my whole life, and it tears a hole in me when someone uses this Flag for something it doesn't represent. And all of those Yankees and other idiotic jackasses do need a history lesson since they have been blinded by a bullshit media that only spread out lies.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
Amen to that sir!
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HaloGamesFan Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Our flag is proudly floating On the land and on the main, Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom! Beneath it oft we've conquered, And we'll conquer oft again! Shout, shout the battle cry of Freedom!
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013
Our Dixie forever, she's never at a loss.
Down with the eagle and up with the cross!
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MaragrizX Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
Ah, then you might like this little number

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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
Ah me does! Thanks! :)
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pittbull44 Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
respect my fellow southerner
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
Thank you sir!
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pittbull44 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2013
Also don't forget," Fuck the Klan 'cause we're gettin' our flag back."
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2013
Fuckin A!

Yeah I know that's a Yankee expression but it fits perfectly here.
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ParanoidPegasus Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I respect you and the dude in the awesome shirt. :)
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
And I appreciate that sir or ma'am. :)
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ParanoidPegasus Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm a ma'am. No problem. :)
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Vive-La-Liberte Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student General Artist
its just a flaaggg my god ppl
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josharts529 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
do you know how many times i tell my sister that the flag dose not symbolize any kind of hatred, i have told her about a 1,000 times (not really) and he still thinks that the flag is "hateful", hell i have a ton of black friends and they understand, i have a rebel flag belt buckle three rebel flags flying in my room, and one in my wallet and i used to have one on my bmx bike, and boy dose that piss her off i just tell her i dont give a shit, its just a flag
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Icyton Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I completely agree! The victors writes history...
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CaptainSelection Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Remember, the north only fought against slavery as a tactic to hurt the confederate rebels. The war was about states rights, not slavery.
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