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Flag of Hate? by DarthRoden Flag of Hate? by DarthRoden
I Don't Know About You But I Am Sick And Tired Of Hearing People Complain That The Southern Cross Battle Flag (or Confederate battle flag, or Rebel flag) Is A Symbol Of Racism To African-Americans.
It Seems That Not All Black Men In The South Or The Rest Of America Share That Viewpoint, Even If It Seems That Most Do. Thankfully There Are More And More Individuals Disagreeing With Such Wrong-Thinking Monolithic Mindsets.

The Misuse Of This Flag By Racists Should Disgust Anyone Of Southern Descent Who Understands Its True History And Heritage.
Men And Boys Of All Races And Religions Served Under The Confederate Southern Cross, 260,000 Of Which Died In A Terrible War. Their Blood And Their Memories Are Woven Into The Fabric Of That Flag.
Those Who Advance Hateful Causes Taint The Memories Of Those Men And Corrupt What Most Southerners Today Consider The Living Symbol Of Southern Identity, An American Banner Second Only To That Of Flag Of The United States Of America.
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2hot2cool Featured By Owner 2 days ago  New Deviant Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I think some people are trying to erase our history, so we have nothing to unite behind. So when they decide to change it all.....we will not be united 'states'
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Lilith-Winter Featured By Owner 5 days ago
Well Said.  
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ss2007wow Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Much respect
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2015
Thanks for your post.
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beachtowns Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2015  New Deviant
I'm Sick And Tired Of Seeing People Who Type Like This, They Make Me Completely Skip Over What They Have To Say
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GourmetPrince Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
To leave one set of shackles only to feel the greater embrace of another, this is the way of the Union. Fought by those who would promise an illusory freeing only if it meant immediate convenience to their order. The Southern Cross of the rebellion carries the principles that can bring hope of a freedom with permanence. Choose carefully.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
This photograph speaks to me, it says that there is hope in the African American community to understand that the Confederate States were established for more then just hateful racism towards their own, but to rebel against a controlling national government over the state governments. This man has my respect.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015
Well, I don't really have a political bend for how I see the flag today, nor care for the former Confederate government and why they sought independence (not slavery though it was the match that set off the power keg). What I do have is a great respect for the men who fought under that flag in defense of their homes and native soil. For their courage, their sense of honor, their sacrifices. They showed the world that even outnumbered 3 - 1 and outweighed 10 - 1 it took four years to put them down when in reality they shouldn't have lasted three months. I also see the flag as a symbol of all Southerners by birthright, and that includes non-white Southerners too. Anyone who uses that flag for racial hatred today commits a hate crime not just against minorities, but all Southern-born people.
I thank you for your post OddGarfield.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I respect your view on the Confederate battle flag and your views on the Confederacy, we're not all political I guess.

You are welcome for my post.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015
Eh, its not that I'm not politically conscious, I am, but I don't use that flag to protest anything the government does. Misuse of that flag caused too much damage to its rep. The guys who died under that flag's memories are tied to it. Waving it around for purposes that don't include Southern pride or respect for the dead denigrates them.

I respect your views too dude and thanks for sharing.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I understand the reputation that that battle flag holds, I guess I should have said that I appoint my political views towards the original Confederate flags that represented the Confederate States as a whole like Stars N' Bars or the Stainless Banner. You speak promising words of teaching, keep it up!
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015
Its all good, bro.
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OddGarfield Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2015  Hobbyist Interface Designer
I'm uploading some of the work that I've made for the Confederacy in the past to TheCivilWarSociety group.
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AmericanSFR Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015
I'm strangely curious on how the Confederate flag is considered racist, but the Stars 'n Stripes is not.  Since both had slavery and the US had around 80 years of Slavery, and longer era of racism till the civil rights movement.  In the end neither are inherently racist.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015
The truth is no symbol is inherently racist. Racism is in the human heart, prejudice a dark part of human nature.
Anyone can display a flag and claim it for their own reasons, or say a religious symbol. Its how one treats their fellow man that matters.
Most people who display those flags would never use either to offend or insult another human being deliberately.
There is also preconceptions. If someone uses something in a negative way and that view is constantly reinforced it makes people see it as evil, unless they can be educated otherwise.
I don't believe that a vast majority of people actually believe either flag is evil or racist in and of themselves, though the ones that do are very vocal and very angry folks. Their anger is misdirected. Its not the flags that cause evil, its prejudice in the souls of individuals that cause bigotry.

In the case of the US flag, more people identify with looking for the best it symbolizes rather than the long list of negatives in its history. Ditto with the Confederate flag. Both have negative aspects in their histories that should not be forgotten, nor brushed aside....but neither should those negative outweigh the positives as long as good people cherish them properly.
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AmericanSFR Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015
Very True and Admirable Paragraph, I appreciate it. :)
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gumballdudley Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2015
to them it was just another American flag.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2015
To many of their descendants living today it still is. The US flag may be the flag of the country, but the battle flag and its starry cross is a hereditary symbol of Southern identity.
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gumballdudley Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2015
think about it they both have stars that means states and they have 3 colors
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2015
No better colors than Red, White, and Blue together.
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Growing5 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
I agree! Even though I do not like that flag I respect anyone's right to wear it. 
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
As do I.
I do like that flag, and respect the right of anyone to wear it honorably without fear of being labeled for doing so.
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VianTravis89 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2015  Student Filmographer
The south will not rise again but neither is it going away. AMERICA!!!
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
The South is the best part of America. Without the South there is no America. ;)
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VianTravis89 Featured By Owner May 8, 2015  Student Filmographer
Agreed. Still won't rise again though.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner May 9, 2015
Doesn't need to, it's already God's Country now.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Edited Aug 30, 2014
Everyone, I am truly sorry that any of y'all were exposed or offended by the obscene, degenerate words posted on this page.
I hope everyone will understand that the language used is not representatives of Americans in general. I have deleted the posts. Again my apologies to anyone who felt put off by this thoughtless moron's language and hate speech.

I do not like trolls, bullies, or low-class people.
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chrisjr5 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2014
I love this picture it just goes to show that our flag is NOT a symbol of racism. Thank you sir for putting this up
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014
And thank you Chris!
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chrisjr5 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014
you're very welcome

Rangers lead the way.
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KnightsofColumbus18 Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Student Artist
I see you met my brother masonic knight and my brothers 100% right. we lived in indiana and we like to fly it.
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MasonicKnight Featured By Owner May 17, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Keep the rebel flag flyin'. Heritage not hate. You can fly the rebel flag in the midwest, the south or anywhere
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner May 19, 2014
Amen sir!
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MasonicKnight Featured By Owner May 20, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
May God bless you fellow rebel
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dakinkypimpwolfie Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014
I'm gay and sport the rebel flag. Keep on keepin on!
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TR0LLHAMMEREN Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Same here.
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ThePastaAlchemist Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
Amin to that my friend!!!!
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MSKM2001 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
I use to think that the Confederate was a symbol of hate and racism but I have been doing my homework and I found out that I was wrong.  As a white American and a Christian...I do believe that slavery and racism is wrong.  Yes...I know that Bible talks about slavery but it wasn't the same type of slavery that happened here in America.  I believe that everyone (male, female, black, white, etc) was created in the image of God.  I believe that Jesus died on the cross for both the white man and black man.  I believe that Jesus loves us no matter who we are.  Skin color doesn't matter to God.  He created us all!
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014
We are in absolute agreement on that one.
As a Southerner I display that flag, but not because I want to offend anyone. I do it because I am proud to be from the American South and I'm proud to be a descendant of a Confederate soldier who died defending his home in war.
I hate the idea that people misuse that flag as a tool of racism and it hurts my soul every time I hear someone is offended by that. It disgusts me and anything I can do to advance the truth and change minds on that view of the Confederate flag and take away the power that racist people have with it I do happily. Nobody should be offended by the sight of that flag, nor made to feel ashamed of being born Southern or their ancestry.
Jesus loves all of us, especially Southern people, no matter what color we are.
God bless you and thanks for the favorite.
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DemonDogMarine1960 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
I WANT A SHIRT LIKE THAT!!  I live in Texas, that makes my a Confederate.   I NEVER HAVE SUPPORTED THE ISSUE OF SLAVERY!!!  I would have set all the slaves free if my family owned any in the Civil War.
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
I admire that and sympathize. My family was never a slaveholding family - for that matter only about one-in-ten or so Confederate soldiers were in fact slaveowners. Most were farmers, laborers, and general everyday working people who thought only of defending their own homes, not the property rights of rich plantation owners that most of them never had contact with or cared much for socially.

The flag is not racist, or rather its only as racist at the intention of the person displaying it wants it to be. In the hands of a decent person its simply a Southern symbol, and only one person in a few hundred actually use this flag wrongly as a tool of hatred. And respect for that flag is not simply always just white only as the photo demonstrates.

You can get a shirt like this or others from a online site called "Dixie Outfitters" they do mail orders and their rates are reasonable. I've gotten a few shirts from there myself and they have all sorts of great designs.
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Supersonicman96 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Shouldn't the view on a flag be based on opinion, not on the opinion of men of the past? I think of the flag as oppression, is that incorrect for me thinking that?
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DarthRoden Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014
Well it depends.
I recently met a black girl about 19 or so who wore a camouflage jacket with a battle flag patch on the left arm. She told me that it was in honor of a boy she knew and loved who died from a brain tumor. The flag to him meant love of the South and his heritage, and to her it means something good because it meant something good to her friend.

I don't hate anyone who cannot look past the bad stuff, even if I cannot agree with their views.

There's really no right or wrong answer there, it depends on your experiences and views. I've seen the flag both used and misused for a variety of reasons, but I do not allow those who misused it to diminish the good things it means to me and millions of others across the world. If I gave up honoring it or standing up for it because of such misuse, then feel if I did so then I more or less surrender that flag to those who misuse it, worse that I give those same people my express approval to do so and hurt others with it. That's a personal decision, same as with the young woman I mentioned.
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